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Re: Current Manga Direction and Predictions (likely to have spoilers)
« Reply #360 on: December 29, 2011, 04:15:26 AM »
Well, if Xanxus does appear, Fon might just attack Xanxus and eliminate the team as a whole, but take them all down one by one, just for fun when he doesn't need to worry about the watch and can go all out without having to defend a non-vital. That would be the best thing to do if Hibari want's to enjoy biting them to death.
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Re: Current Manga Direction and Predictions (likely to have spoilers)
« Reply #361 on: December 29, 2011, 06:57:04 AM »
For Varia's side they will say that Varia will win because they outnumber Hibari, but there's a catch.

Hibari can propagate, he can make replicas, to even or outnumber them.
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Re: Current Manga Direction and Predictions (likely to have spoilers)
« Reply #362 on: December 29, 2011, 07:28:45 AM »
Even IF Fon joins, it's only for 5 minutes, and he isn't like typical storm users, personality all fiery and hardcore. if it were, then I'd consider him taking on Varia and having a chance at destroying the watches. But he's actually SO laid back, that he probably wait for an opportunity to attack.

You can't underestimate the Varia. Due to plot situations, they got destroyed but in reality, they are technically the strongest beings on paper. Now add in everyone in the manga's unique situations, like Flames and boxes, and it sorta evens out their supernatural abilities, sorta lame but that's how a  manga is.

So if Varia has some new tricks BESIDES super saiyan mode, I'd see them winning, if not, then that's a lame upgrade. Like Vongola gears was like everyone becoming the best they can be, the best upgrade possible.
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Re: Current Manga Direction and Predictions (likely to have spoilers)
« Reply #363 on: December 30, 2011, 08:10:26 AM »
Another tactic I've thought of, Hibari can propagate Fon, and Fon can fight par with other members.
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Re: Current Manga Direction and Predictions (likely to have spoilers)
« Reply #364 on: December 30, 2011, 08:29:54 AM »
Quote from: Deidre on December 30, 2011, 08:10:26 AM
Another tactic I've thought of, Hibari can propagate Fon, and Fon can fight par with other members.


Ok, how would he do that then. It would be a great tactic, but please do elaborate on how he'd do it. Besides the Stalker Squad of whatever and that one assassin at the start of the Simon arm, haven't seen any people using Cloud flames to augment their bodies, and that could be due to the rarity of flame usage in the modern day Namimori, but in the future arc only stalker squad i think.

So I'd like to hear more of this, and that would require Fon to use his gift, and so far I'm betting it's one time use, but it also doesn't seem so as Colonello is using his early on and not cause his team is in danger. So I wonder if he's hoping to take out all of his most dangerous foes now or he's sure he can use it again.
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Re: Current Manga Direction and Predictions (likely to have spoilers)
« Reply #365 on: December 30, 2011, 03:24:39 PM »
I think the present please has a time limit. You could have a total of 5 minutes to use your full power, if you use it for 1 minute, you have 4 minutes left. Thus, you could use it multiple times if you are very efficient.

As for Hibari propagating Fon, that would require that Fon modify himself to accept the flames as if he were a box pet.
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Re: Current Manga Direction and Predictions (likely to have spoilers)
« Reply #366 on: December 31, 2011, 06:37:13 AM »
Quote from: Morte on December 30, 2011, 03:24:39 PM
I think the present please has a time limit. You could have a total of 5 minutes to use your full power, if you use it for 1 minute, you have 4 minutes left. Thus, you could use it multiple times if you are very efficient.

As for Hibari propagating Fon, that would require that Fon modify himself to accept the flames as if he were a box pet.


Hmmm I don't think you can turn off your present or Colonello would turn back to normal to preserve as much sniping time he needs. So I'm guessing you use it at your pleasure, Colonello trying to get an early lead and strategic advantage
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Re: Current Manga Direction and Predictions (likely to have spoilers)
« Reply #367 on: January 02, 2012, 06:19:08 AM »
Quote from: XinVein on December 30, 2011, 08:29:54 AM
Quote from: Deidre on December 30, 2011, 08:10:26 AM
Another tactic I've thought of, Hibari can propagate Fon, and Fon can fight par with other members.


Ok, how would he do that then. It would be a great tactic, but please do elaborate on how he'd do it. Besides the Stalker Squad of whatever and that one assassin at the start of the Simon arm, haven't seen any people using Cloud flames to augment their bodies, and that could be due to the rarity of flame usage in the modern day Namimori, but in the future arc only stalker squad i think.

So I'd like to hear more of this, and that would require Fon to use his gift, and so far I'm betting it's one time use, but it also doesn't seem so as Colonello is using his early on and not cause his team is in danger. So I wonder if he's hoping to take out all of his most dangerous foes now or he's sure he can use it again.

Hm? I don't see how I can elaborate further, Adelheid's propagation can be done by Hibari, but applied and done differently. And since we haven't seen Fon in action, I can just rely on the sun flame's ability, being tough and strong.
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Re: Current Manga Direction and Predictions (likely to have spoilers)
« Reply #368 on: January 02, 2012, 11:34:46 PM »
But to propagate Fon, Hibari would need to perform dangerous modifications to Fon's body. It wouldn't work.
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Re: Current Manga Direction and Predictions (likely to have spoilers)
« Reply #369 on: January 03, 2012, 05:05:18 AM »
Hibari was able to use a Mist Ring from the future right? He can probably use Mist Flames even for a little.
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Re: Current Manga Direction and Predictions (likely to have spoilers)
« Reply #370 on: January 03, 2012, 10:26:06 AM »
LOL I like how I'm gone two days and there's not much going on here.

Firs, Fon is Storm flame, so whats this about sun flame?

Second Adel FROZE WATER to make clones, she can create ice, like a solid mass and it just so happens she can make humanoid clones. Cloud flames have never been shown to do this, to make a physical form or anything. ONLY Illusions would be able to do such things....since they're fake and not real, you can make the opponent see hundreds. OR You can do what chrome did, make Real Illusions of things, then make normal illusions of them all around. (Cause apparently she didn't make three REAL illusion Mukuros, just one with a bunch of normal Illusions tricking the opponent and not letting know which was can hurt)

Hibari has a bit of Mist flame in him, but he never used it in the future. Thats the reason why he could read illusions so well, Well his future self anyway at the very least. He has extreme knowledge of illusions, so it's assumed he has a mist in him, like a tiny affinity for it, but not enough to make a flame or use a ring, or even make normal illusions. Don't forget everyone has potential to use any flame, its just that your body, soul and mind, determine your flames. Like all the waves are in you, but some are just accessible and multi flamed users are still rare as hell, but two flames aren't too badly seen as said by the manga.

Like Gokudera, he has STRONG affinities thus he uses multiple flames, but none are nearly used or controlled as much as storm. He just has enough to produce a flame from a ring. Hibari is even less so in the same position with the Mist flame. And to add to that, most of his knowledge comes form his detest of Mist flame users and Illusions in general, form his fight with Mukuro.

Its like his hate plus his slight and miniscule of affinity towards mist flames leads to his ability to have the affinity in general. Say like you need at least a 20% affinity rate with a flame, having a 100% in your main, Hibari would have say a 1-5% in mist.

So......what else is there to talk about? Sexy Sniper Shooting?
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Re: Current Manga Direction and Predictions (likely to have spoilers)
« Reply #371 on: January 08, 2012, 08:03:29 AM »
We could still rely on Fon's strength, Reborn might be the strongest, but it seems Fon's good at agility.

Let's set aside the propagation theory, we know Fon is fast, the rest lies on his techniques and their plan.

Hibari and Fon knows what they're doing, they don't fight unprepared.

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Re: Current Manga Direction and Predictions (likely to have spoilers)
« Reply #372 on: January 14, 2012, 05:47:06 AM »
Quote from: Deidre on January 08, 2012, 08:03:29 AM
We could still rely on Fon's strength, Reborn might be the strongest, but it seems Fon's good at agility.

Let's set aside the propagation theory, we know Fon is fast, the rest lies on his techniques and their plan.

Hibari and Fon knows what they're doing, they don't fight unprepared.


Wait, is that second half a concept of preemptive knowledge of the strategic tactics of the fight that will soon commence?

EDIT: The manga chapter before the one that came out today totally made it seem like the present can only be used once, but the newest one, the one that came out today definitely makes it set and stone it can be saved. So it's like all the time you get is 5mins.

So now since Mukuro is gone, it's either Tsuna (not likely AT ALL) Xanxus or Hibari who will lose, unless somehow Enma figures a way to somehow lose LOL. But yeah 4 were at Yuni's place, and two are at a hotel where one, Enma is not fighting at the moment.
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Re: Current Manga Direction and Predictions (likely to have spoilers)
« Reply #373 on: January 19, 2012, 08:12:28 PM »
Latest chapter is interesting.

I don't get what Iemitsu really wants to say, and look, Reborn without the curse. :o
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Re: Current Manga Direction and Predictions (likely to have spoilers)
« Reply #374 on: January 19, 2012, 11:08:16 PM »
Quote from: Deidre on January 19, 2012, 08:12:28 PM
Latest chapter is interesting.

I don't get what Iemitsu really wants to say, and look, Reborn without the curse. :o


I read your other thingy wrong lol. It's what I get when I stay up too late. And yeah, Fangirls are going mad. Colonello uncursed! And then when he turns back to normal, REBORN uncursed. Oh man, girls are going wild.

Lemitsu is obviously upholding an act and trying to teach him something, like I said waaaaay when this started. Like how Tsuna learned what his pride was during the Vongola vs Shimon Arc. SO now he also has to learn something while dealing with his father issues. I don't blame Tsuna to feel how he feels, but there's obviously something Amano wants to go on.

edit 1/25/2012: Haha, I told ya guys, all of Reborn/Lemitsu situations were going to add up to lessons and here there are!! AND I was right about how the situation of being a man, the experience and such would overwhelm Tsuna, man I'm good. Tsuna was too proud from his success from such a negative situation; practically fatherless and horrible grades. Reborn comes in, makes him awesome, fought even when he's a pacifist, saved the world or did something amazing, thinks lowly of his father. Remember kids, the apple doesn't fall from the tree, or in this case, Tsuna is merely an apple compared to Lemitsu who is a full grown tree.

ONLY FLAW: LOL Why does Lemitsu need to be THAT strong in the present time line. Like if you squint and add in the experience and the fact HDWM makes you like literally 100x stronger, than MAYBE.......but still. This is the whole reason why we DON'T allow HDWM as anyone's choice.

Reason: CAUSE Tsuna a mere normal if not horribly below average fighter, strength, speed and ECT, was able to defeat the top Vongola Hitman, Varia, Boss. Xanxus, who also had inhuman abilities. So HDWM = The New Super Saiyan in manga, over shadow's Bleach's Bankai, but Bankai takes centuries to master anyhow. Naruto Sage mode and all the Chakra shroud forms are the same thing, make you super.

Reborn, hitman status, only other pistol user besides Xanxus, as in AWESOME pistol user, not just any ordinary Handgun user. But the whole bullet in the ground thing didn't make any sense, EVEN LESS sense then Wanted with curving the bullet, which seems plausible if you somehow trust hard enough at the right time. BUT shooting into the ground and having them shoot UP is literally like machine bullets or something, which I wouldn't doubt, he does have LEON. Still god moddy though. People with extreme reaction time like HDWM or Varia quality won't have trouble, but it IS too crazy for the normal world.

AWESOME CHAPTER. Can't wait to see Varia vs Kyoya
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