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Offline elizabeth_cross

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Cleaner Application
« on: February 13, 2011, 08:08:24 PM »
Name/Nickname: elizabeth_cross
Country Of Origin & Time Zone: London (GMT+0)
Gender: Female
Age:20
Enter Msn or Yahoo messenger:elisa_278@hotmail.com
What Field You Would Like To Be Positioned In:Cleaner
Why You Want This Position:I love manga and cleaning is the only thing I can do
Your Time Available:5 hours every night
Experience:None, but I've been using photoshop for 6 years

The Test: http://www.mediafire.com/?h42ogg0v22q74ms

it took me around 2 hours to make all the pages
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Re: Cleaner Application
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2011, 02:36:27 AM »
i'm sorry your app has been here without a reply for so long already! :/ i can't do it now but if there's still no reply from someone tomorrow i'll try giving crits tomorrow morning. please don't think we're ignoring you on purpose! >_<
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Re: Cleaner Application
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2011, 12:58:11 AM »
Hey, this is pretty good for your first try! You've got things fairly smooth and you're keeping the details for the most part, which is good. But you can make the grays even more even by using Topaz Clean (I recommend the Degrunge preset, but watch that Accent setting, you have to be careful with it).

+C: Good. Only problem here is that the blacks could be darker in a few areas, like in the middle of the third panel, and on the オ in that panel. Also I can see some JPEG artifacts. Please make sure you're saving all your jpg's at 100% quality.
BB - some of your blacks are purplish. This comes from overusing Topaz Denoise. A quick Desaturate (ctrl+shift+u) or converting to grayscale can fix this. This is a page that can benefit from Topaz Clean. Some of your blacks can be burned more. Turn the brightness on your monitor way up and you can see it. It's a bit blurry - Filter>Sharpen>Smart Sharpen will help that.
DMW - Purply blacks need to be fixed. Use Topaz Clean on this, but be careful not to lose your clouds when you do.
DD - This looks pretty good. Burn the blacks on  her right eyelashes and on the dress.
FT - Purply and blacks need to be burned throughout the image. Turn that monitor brightness up if you can't see it.
Reborn - be gentler with Denoise. The grays are pretty fuzzy. Topaz Clean will help. Purply needs to be fixed.
Rainbow - this looks good! It is a tad bit over-sharpened, though.
VK - Not too bad! I like that you've preserved the patterns and haven't over-denoised it. There's some whites in the second panel that need to be dodged, and it would be good if you can get the dirt out of the texture on the girl's face in the third panel (Topaz Clean will help this, but be careful, the "accent" setting can quickly turn that dot pattern to something that looks like rice!) You've also brightened it a bit too much, and the lineart isn't as dark as it could be.

I look forward to seeing your redos! Your test is very promising. :D
« Last Edit: February 22, 2011, 01:00:00 AM by Lanie »
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Re: Cleaner Application
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2011, 04:42:29 PM »
Thanks for the reply, I'll work on it tonight to see how it goes
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I got home early so I gave it a try, hope it's better.

http://www.mediafire.com/?4n837zjej89ji9p
« Last Edit: February 22, 2011, 07:57:26 PM by elizabeth_cross »
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Re: Cleaner Application
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2011, 08:09:50 PM »
fuu sorry something came up when i had the time and sunday - tuesday evening are my busy-with-college days T_T
i'm going to check your redo right now though! :D


Okay here i go, you did a good job generally but you tend to overdenoise your pages and your whites aren't completely white. Keep on doing it though, as i said it's pretty good :D

+C: sword and cornett:
-It's a bit overdenoised which causes the page to look blurry. Try to denoise less.
-Because you denoised too much you probably compensated it by levelling but the greys are slightly too dark now. Also notice the grey blur surrounding the lineart? You can get rid of that using the dodge tool, or by levelling the whites a bit more, whatever works best for your page.

Beelzebub:
-Same here, the page is a bit overdenoised, bit too dark and the whites aren't completely white yet
-Do you see in the greys the border of this page got messed up a little? That's not something you did, it's because of topaz clean. To avoid that in the future, enlarge the canvas size, then clean and crop the extra border you created off when you're done ^^

Deadman Wonderland:
-Looks good overall! Just -again :P- denoise it a bit less, and make sure the whites are completely white. And the border thing applies here as well

Defense Devil:
-Be careful here, the pattern in the greys are too obvious. Make sure the difference between light and dark in the greys isn't so big.
-aand the whites again :P

Fairy Tail:
-same as DD, the pattern in the greys is way too obvious and the whites should be completely white

Reborn:
-overdenoised
-page is a bit too dark and whites still have grey in it
-burn the blacks because there's still dust on them

Rainbow:
-too blurry/overdenoised
-level the whites

Vampire Knight:
-Looks pretty good but it's slightly overdenoised as well

I'm looking forward to your redo~
« Last Edit: February 22, 2011, 10:34:13 PM by AvalonsAyame ಠ‿ಠ »
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Re: Cleaner Application
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2011, 10:41:38 PM »
I applied a few months back but never got around to finish the corrections of the test, now I once again have enough time to be able to help so I thought I’d try one more time. Hope it’s OK

My information still the same except my “Country Of Origin & Time Zone” is now Bogota, Colombia (GMT-5)

Here’s the test
http://www.mediafire.com/?9q6yvivyhcxdtqq]
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Re: Cleaner Application
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2011, 10:42:14 PM »
+C: Level blacks a bit.

BB: level whites and blacks, fix the details in the first guys hair.

DMW: Noisy grays. Level blacks and whites.

DD: Overcontrasted grays. You'll have to redo to fix this =/

FT: Good merge. Overcontrasted grays here too. Level whites and blacks a bit. You'll have to redo to fix this too.

Reborn: Overdenoised. Level whites more. You'll have to redo to fix this too.

Rainbow: Level blacks, level whites slightly and burn the rest of the blacks that aren't black yet.

VK: Overdenoised. You can drop this one if you don't want to clean VK.

Looking forward to your redo =)
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Re: Cleaner Application
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2011, 12:16:12 AM »
Hopefully I've understood the corrections :P

Here it goes again
http://www.mediafire.com/?kod9nt69mftyj97

And I dropped VK, I tried but ended up even worse than before :s
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Re: Cleaner Application
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2011, 10:50:21 PM »
Have I been forgotten?    :T.T
I'd appreciate any comment about the test
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Re: Cleaner Application
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2011, 11:33:58 PM »
Yes you were =( I'll have a look at it asap, to be honest I'm pretty busy atm. Sorry!
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Re: Cleaner Application
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2011, 11:42:22 PM »
Don't worry, whenever you have time, just don't forget me again please :grin
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Re: Cleaner Application
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2011, 10:38:36 PM »
+C: Good.

BB: Level whites and blacks. Grays are a bit noisy imo.

DMW: Level blacks + whites. Redraw the lines of the building in the right above the black band.

DD: Overcontraster grays, detail loss.

FT: Good merrge, overcontrasted grays. Level whites and blacks.

Reborn: Noisy grays, level whites and blacks.

Rainbow: Level whites and blacks.

Make sure you level right, maybe change your contrast of your monitor to see it. It's really obvious if you zoom in on the edges.

Looking forward to your redo!
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Re: Cleaner Application
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2011, 09:06:32 PM »
I've calibrated my screen before doing the corrections, hopefully that helped
Here's the test
http://www.mediafire.com/?3qywcycdp5v41fv
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Re: Cleaner Application
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2011, 05:26:36 PM »
I'm not a cleaner, but let me tell that your your hard work are:

1) Too blurry.(in this just use some plugin topaz you can see it in the training ground)
2) please take a look in that gray shape.
3) the blacks are good.

I still think that it's better if you wait for a proper cleaner's crits, but if you want to fix what I said first, you're doing us a favor XDD
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Re: Cleaner Application
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2011, 05:53:40 AM »
Well, hope you still be waiting for some critic... xD

We are very busy atm... sorry for it... but I'll help, though I'm not professional at critiques. xD

+C: Good.

Beel: I don't know how was your last clean, but try to do the grays more uniformly and pay attention in every place that need to be totally black. ^^

DW: Good.

DD: Again, try to do the grays more uniformly but without lose the detail.

FT: Good, but need to level the blacks and whites totally.

KHR: Good, but need to remove that noise at Hibari's clothes... a little bit though.

Rainbow: Forgot to crop the black part in the bottom. Gray need to be cleaner.

In general, you need to do the patterns of gray a little less sharp... and, a tip to level properly the black and white is:

To white, look over your display and pay attention in the white area...
To black, look under your display and pay attention in the black area.

Hugs!
« Last Edit: September 18, 2011, 06:16:23 AM by Chacall »
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