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Nghia's Second Chance! What!? He tries to be a cleaner now!?
« on: March 04, 2010, 06:37:31 AM »
Name/Nickname: Nghia/Sexy Beast
Country Of Origin & Time Zone: -8:00
Gender: Male
Age: 15
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What Field You Would Like To Be Positioned In: Cleaner
Why You Want This Position: I have nothing else to do~ Kinda... When I get better at Japanese I plan to establish my own rag tag group for scanalations, anime subs, and dramas subs, known as the Sex Kittens. Although the name was for originally for fun, My friend and I are honestly thinking about using that name. We aren't sure if we are ever going to establish that group, but I would like to gain some experience now.
Experience: I have been using photoshop for two years, although there were many "breaks" involve. Besides that I learned how to clean just last night.

This is the download link for the raws that I cleaned.
http://www.mediafire.com/?nnymyglmrjj
It took me less than two hours, that includes multitasking on Facebook, and my laptop turning off because I forgot to charge it, and me not saving some pictures and exiting them. There are some mistakes on the Reborn page, the D. Grayman page was pretty bad so I did not bother to attempt to remove the kanji. Besides that, there were not that many problems.
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Re: Nghia's Second Chance! What!? He tries to be a cleaner now!?
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2010, 06:52:56 AM »
... Everyone besides Nghia-san... Please ignore everything in the spoiler...

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NGHIA-TEME!!! SEXY BEAST? SEX KITTENS? GAHH!!! I'LL KILL YOU!!! HOW CAN YOU DO THIS TO ME???!!!! Oh no... I can feel it already... My senpais will never let me live this down!!! ARGHH!!! I can just picture the whole thing right now!!! Once my senpais see this, they're going to yell at me!!! And Maguregumo-senpai is already treating me like an animal! Senpai will never let me forget this!!! ARGH! I should have wrote our your application when I had the chance! The moment I trust you to do something like this, you go and write that?? GAHHH!!! NGHIA-SAN!!! ONE DAY, I AM SO GOING TO ATTACK YOU!!!!

Ahem... Now that we have that out of our way... I'm not a cleaner, so I don't know how helpful my advice would be... I like it, the only problem I could find was that the blacks should be like... blacker? Does that make sense? For example on the Beelzebub page, you could go over that with black to get rid of the white spots and do the same thing on the Fairy Tail page...
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Re: Nghia's Second Chance! What!? He tries to be a cleaner now!?
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2010, 04:05:22 PM »
You know I somehow get this yaoi vibe from you two  :nosebleed :crazy Tingly yaoi senses fuhuhu.

XD okay crits @.@

okie, first of all: you need a denoiser XD get one at www.neatimage.com for the test :3
Because as you probably noticed, cleaning sucks when you don't have a denoiser. XD Once you figure it out, your time to do them should be considerably shorter o.O.

as for levels i can tell you're in the right direction maybe just lower the strength of the blacks a bit and you'll be good @.@

also you don't have to remove the text out of the bubbles :D Ts'ers do that ^-^ (gotta love being a cleaner fufufu.)

so, please try again with the denoiser. I'll give you a super-awesome, in-depth crit of all your pages when you post :D or someone else will @.@

and i'll edit in Tuts on denoising once i find them, good luck!! ^^


EDIT: Here's the denoising Tut
http://franky-house.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144

but don't be scared to not follow it :D ie: I prefer, by far, not leveling before denoising >_>. Save time by levling only once and i think it looks prettyful

so try out stuff, you can get someone to check the cleans (you can pm them to me or whoever you want) before you post them officially
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Re: Nghia's Second Chance! What!? He tries to be a cleaner now!?
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2010, 11:50:06 PM »
Demo version doesn't allow me to completely clean the whole page.
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Re: Nghia's Second Chance! What!? He tries to be a cleaner now!?
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2010, 12:24:34 AM »
whaaaat O_o.

you sure? D:
I have demo and it cleans my pages >.<

maybe u missed it though cus there's like 4 thingies you have to do before it cleans completely;

where did you get at in this serie of ..things to do <.<
Input image: open input image > Device Noise... : Auto Profile > Noise Filter Set...: Preview > Output Image: Apply

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Re: Nghia's Second Chance! What!? He tries to be a cleaner now!?
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2010, 02:45:23 AM »
I got through all of it, but when I try on Beel test page, it only cleans Oga's shirt. Or rather the area around and including his shirt. It says, "Neat Image demo plugin will only process a part of the input image if the image is larger than 1024 X 1024 pixels." There's a chance the image will be ruined a bit if I resize, and then enlarge.
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Re: Nghia's Second Chance! What!? He tries to be a cleaner now!?
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2010, 04:04:36 AM »
Weird shit >_> I dl'ed neatimage today, tried it out and had no problems. Which link did you click for dl?

EDIT:
AH!

no!
completely wrong! It's just you need to open the program seperately instead of through PS XD.

Sorry for not clicking til now lol XD
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Re: Nghia's Second Chance! What!? He tries to be a cleaner now!?
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2010, 04:06:42 AM »
Sorry for the double post. I got the denoiser to work. It made the pages look kinda sexy. Er, sexier than before. And whatever your yaoi senses are telling you, they are incorrect by a long shot -_-.

Nghia's Second Test, Return from the Depths of a sexy hell!
http://www.mediafire.com/?j1ht0imjmi3

Edit: I just got annoyed and made them smaller then bigger.
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Re: Nghia's Second Chance! What!? He tries to be a cleaner now!?
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2010, 04:12:53 AM »
Quote from: nghia2daizzo on March 05, 2010, 04:06:42 AM
And whatever your yaoi senses are telling you, they are incorrect by a long shot -_-.



I knew it was impossible, but hey, what's a yaoi fangirl gotta do :D

well anyway XD Do you want to try again before i give you pointers? cus I can do that now and when you try with a working denoiser you'll know what to look at @.@

ok I'm giving you pointers now whatever you say
So the denoising is too strong, but that's kinda normal considering the size of images you worked with @.@. So yeah when you see the real thing you'll be all like "buhgeezers in flying babies, I see now#"

ok moving on;  for levels:  Overkill on the blacks, too soft on the whites, (for the whites)the grey blotches of not-so-sexy hell are your enemies >_>. usually the strength of the whites is set exactly(well not exactly but you get me) when all the grey blotches disapear

However, for your greys: they are alooot more attractive (except on the Naruto page, which doesn't require much denoising to start with). They're abit dark but that's because of the leveling, just don't try to remove all the leftover dust from denoising with leveling, because overleveling kills T_T
It has to be juust right, so that your blacks and whites are mostly nice and smooth, and that your greys don't look like they've been beaten ;D (it took me awhile not to violate my greys, so dw you'll get the hang of it)

soo i would go page by page but it'd get pretty repetitive as it's basically the same thing but in different strengths. Just keep in mind what i said and good luck. Also, I can add you on msn if you have any questions (just say the word) and i'll be in our irc (Anne on there) too for awhile
« Last Edit: March 05, 2010, 04:32:19 AM by Mooltie »
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Re: Nghia's Second Chance! What!? He tries to be a cleaner now!?
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2010, 04:22:55 AM »
I'll try it out first~
Yuri for the win! But then again I don't really look at that stuff...
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Re: Nghia's Second Chance! What!? He tries to be a cleaner now!?
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2010, 04:27:06 AM »
I demand my pointers! Jk~ The ones I did when I resize in order to make Neatimage work seem a bit smoother, well the Beel page did. Except that some detail seemed to be lost in the process...
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Re: Nghia's Second Chance! What!? He tries to be a cleaner now!?
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2010, 04:34:09 AM »
See post up there ^ XD

Also you need to find the balance between smooth and detailed, your beel page is better than the others but it's still a bit too denoised
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Re: Nghia's Second Chance! What!? He tries to be a cleaner now!?
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2010, 04:44:11 AM »



(it took me awhile not to violate my greys, so dw you'll get the hang of it)

This spoke to me the most. I'll try it again. Thanks for the pointers~ I'll eventually get this down xP
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Re: Nghia's Second Chance! What!? He tries to be a cleaner now!?
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2010, 06:30:36 AM »
Nghia's Return from the depths of hell, Drenched in Sweat, His sexy body shines.
http://www.mediafire.com/?miizmmiiwmd

I won't give up!~
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Re: Nghia's Second Chance! What!? He tries to be a cleaner now!?
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2010, 08:56:40 AM »
Quote from: nghia2daizzo on March 05, 2010, 06:30:36 AM
Nghia's Return from the depths of hell, Drenched in Sweat, His sexy body shines.
http://www.mediafire.com/?miizmmiiwmd

I won't give up!~

Good.. cus we're gonna whip you good :pirate

First! and foremost! ...didn't finish after denoising? D:
So! I'm gonna give you feedback on what's there and done
I recognize the learning process, it won't be easy my child @.@
anyway lets go

Blazer: level the whites!..that is all XD.

DGM: Level less the whites! also denoise more, or find someother miraculous way to make that hideous monster (that is the quality of the raw) into a sex bomb

DD: for this manga the raws are different from what you usually get, so it's normal if you got the overwhelming feeling of wanting to shove it up the artist's ass, just be patient XD. anyway; on this page you can denoise just a bit more, also make sure to burn every single black on there. The blacks are a bit strong on here, but you probably won't have blacks that are too strong if you denoise more, since you wont need to level as much to have almost-all-clean Blacks/Whites

Fairytail: Okay so again underdenoised, and this raw is a bitch so there's tons of noise all over the place. See the 2nd panel? the clothes, hair, bags are supposed to be black. But anyway, your levels here are good, really good, just denoise more and burn everything that's left. and hell, since i'm in the mood to clean, here's an ex of what you need on this page:
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/6578/sawesomeness.jpg

used Neatimage(after resizing), leveling and burning for that. Hope it gives you a better idea of what a page has to look like ^^ (but my whites are slightly weak)

okay next
Naruto: Gooooood! Just tiny things to fix, and that is that you must burn the blacks until there's no white specks on them. Invert, Invert!

then Reborn you didn't level @.@ also it seems not denoised enough
same with Beelz, didnt denoise enough


so thats all for now
 
« Last Edit: March 05, 2010, 08:59:21 AM by Mooltie »
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